- Description
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- Creator(s)
- Thomas Girtin (1775-1802)
- Title
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- York Minster, from the South West
- Date
- 1796 - 1797
- Medium and Support
- Watercolour and bodycolour on wove paper, on an original mount (trimmed)
- Dimensions
- 46.8 × 40.7 cm, 18 ⅜ × 16 in
- Inscription
'York Cathed Girtin' on the back of the mount by Thomas Girtin
- Object Type
- Exhibition Watercolour; Studio Watercolour
- Subject Terms
- Gothic Architecture: Cathedral View; Yorkshire View
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- Collection
- Versions
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York Minster, from the South West(TG1047)
- Catalogue Number
- TG1048
- Description Source(s)
- Viewed in December 2025
Provenance
(?) Dr Thomas Monro (1759–1833); his posthumous sale, Christie’s, 1 July 1833, lot 118 as 'York Minster'; bought by Alexander Monro (1802–44), £11 0s 6d; ... Sotheby's, 19 March 1958, lot 36; bought by 'Spink's', £260; Spink & Son Ltd, London; bought by Philip Cunliffe-Lister, 1st Earl of Swinton (1884–1972) and Mary Constance, Countess of Swinton (d.1974), 1959; then by descent; Trustees of the Lord Swinton Will Trust; Sotheby's, 1 July 2026, lot 147, £89,600
Exhibition History
(?) Royal Academy, London, 1797, no.486, no.489, no.499 or no.726 as ’View of York’; Spink’s, London, 1959, catalogue untraced; London, 1963a, no.26
Place depicted
Other entries in The 1796 Northern Tour to Yorkshire, the North East and the Scottish Borders:
Sketches and Subsequent Watercolours
Bamburgh Castle, from the South
Cragside House, Northumberland (National Trust)
Durham Cathedral, from the South West
British Museum, London
The Ouse Bridge, York, from the North Shore
British Museum, London
The Ouse Bridge, York, from Skeldergate Postern
York Art Gallery
York: The New Walk on the Banks of the Ouse
Yale Center for British Art, New Haven
York Minster, from the South West
Private Collection
York Minster, from the South West
Private Collection
York Minster, from the Ouse, with St Mary’s Abbey
Harewood House, Yorkshire
The South Side of York Minster, Showing the Transept and the Western Towers
Private Collection, Yorkshire
York Minster, from the South East, Layerthorpe Bridge and Postern to the Right
British Museum, London
Unidentified Gothic Ruins, Said to Be St Mary’s Abbey, York
Birmingham Museums & Art Gallery
A Distant View of Ripon Minster, from the River Skell
Private Collection
A Distant View of Ripon Minster, from the River Skell
Harewood House, Yorkshire
A Distant View of Rievaulx Abbey
Yale Center for British Art, New Haven
Easby Abbey, from the River Swale
Private Collection
Easby Abbey, from the River Swale
Manchester Art Gallery
Easby Abbey, from the River Swale
Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York
The Bridge at Warkworth, with the Church Beyond
Victoria and Albert Museum, London
Richmond, Yorkshire: The Seventeenth-Century House Known as St Nicholas
British Museum, London
Richmond Castle and Bridge, from the River Swale
The Huntington Library, Art Museum and Botanical Gardens, San Marino
Richmond Castle and Bridge, from the River Swale
Victoria Gallery and Museum, University of Liverpool
Richmond Castle and Town, from the South East
Private Collection
Barnard Castle, from the River Tees
British Museum, London
Egglestone Abbey, from the River Tees
Gallery Oldham
Egglestone Abbey, on the River Tees
British Museum, London
Durham Cathedral and Castle, from the River Wear
Museum of Fine Arts, Boston
Durham Cathedral and Castle, from the River Wear
The Whitworth, The University of Manchester
Durham Cathedral and Castle, from the River Wear
J. Paul Getty Museum, Los Angeles
Durham Castle and Cathedral, from below the Weir
Private Collection, Norfolk
Durham Castle and Cathedral, from below the Weir
Victoria and Albert Museum, London
Durham Castle and Cathedral, from below the Weir; Dryburgh Abbey with the Eildon Hills Beyond
Birmingham Museums & Art Gallery
Durham Cathedral, from the South West
Private Collection
St Nicholas’ Church, Newcastle-upon-Tyne
Private Collection
Tynemouth Priory, from the Coast
Cleveland Museum of Art
Bothal Castle, from the River Wansbeck
Private Collection
A River Scene with a Tower, Said to Be the Tyne near Hexham
Leeds Art Gallery
Warkworth Castle, from the River Coquet
Yale Center for British Art, New Haven
Warkworth Castle, from the River Coquet
Private Collection, Norfolk
The Bridge at Warkworth, with the Castle Beyond
Untraced Works
Dunstanburgh Castle, Viewed from a Distance
Yale Center for British Art, New Haven
Dunstanburgh Castle: The Lilburn Tower
Laing Art Gallery, Newcastle-upon-Tyne
Lindisfarne: An Interior View of the Ruins of the Priory Church
The Whitworth, The University of Manchester
Lindisfarne: An Interior View of the Ruins of the Priory Church
Fitzwilliam Museum, University of Cambridge
An Interior View of the Ruins of Lindisfarne Priory Church
Yale Center for British Art, New Haven
Lindisfarne: The Nave and Crossing of the Priory Church
British Museum, London
An Exterior View of the Ruins of Lindisfarne Priory Church
Ashmolean Museum, University of Oxford
An Exterior View of the Ruins of Lindisfarne Priory Church
Private Collection
York Minster, from the South East, Layerthorpe Bridge and Postern to the Right
Victoria and Albert Museum, London
Dryburgh Abbey: The South Transept Looking North
Private Collection
Dryburgh Abbey: The South Transept from the Cloister
Private Collection
Melrose Abbey: The Ruined Presbytery and the East Window
Clark Art Institute, Williamstown
Melrose Abbey: The Ruined Presbytery and the East Window
Cooper Gallery, Barnsley
Melrose Abbey, from the North East
The Morgan Library & Museum, New York
Jedburgh Abbey, from the North East
Private Collection
Jedburgh Abbey, from Jed Water
Yale Center for British Art, New Haven
The Village of Jedburgh, with the Abbey Ruins
British Museum, London
The Village of Jedburgh, with the Abbey Ruins
Private Collection, Bedfordshire
The West Front of Jedburgh Abbey
British Museum, London
Jedburgh Abbey, from the South East
Blickling Hall, Norfolk (National Trust)
The Ruins of the Lady Chapel, near Bothal
Rhode Island School of Design Museum, Providence
Bamburgh Castle, from the Village
Guy Peppiatt Fine Art Ltd
St Nicholas’ Church, Newcastle-upon-Tyne
Victoria Gallery and Museum, University of Liverpool
Richmond, Yorkshire: The Seventeenth-Century House Known as St Nicholas
Private Collection
An Interior View of Fountains Abbey: The East Window from the Presbytery
Graves Gallery, Sheffield
St Mary’s, Old Malton, on the River Derwent
Untraced Works
York: Pavement, Looking towards All Saints
Private Collection
Footnotes
- 1 See the Documents section of the Archive (1820 – Item 1).
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About this Work
This view of York Minster from the south west, with the river Ouse to the left and Lendal Tower in the centre, is one of two versions of a composition that has been the subject of considerable speculation about its origin (the other being TG1047) (Hill, 1996, p.146). Neither of the works was included in Thomas Girtin (1874–1960) and David Loshak’s catalogue (Girtin and Loshak, 1954) as they only reappeared on the art market after its publication, but when they did so Tom Girtin (1913–94) sought to show that they were worked up from a pencil drawing by Joseph Mallord William Turner (1775–1851) (see TG1047 figure 1). Noting the similarity of the composition to a drawing that came from the collection of Dr Thomas Monro (1759–1833), together with small watercolour on card (see TG1047 figure 2), which may also be by Turner, Tom concluded that his ancestor had been encouraged by his patron to use Turner’s drawing as the basis for a large composition (TG1047) and that this work was a second version of that outcome (Girtin Archive, 40A). However, there is a much simpler, less convoluted explanation for the striking similarities between the Girtin and Turner compositions. Thus, as David Hill has argued, Turner appears to have seen Girtin’s northern sketches prior to his own northern tour in 1797 and, as in the case of the view Durham Cathedral and Castle (see TG1075 figure 1), he adopted Girtin’s viewpoint when he visited the city (Hill, 1996, pp.4–5). Two other York views sketched by Turner, York: Pavement, with the Market Cross and All Saints’ Church (see TG1655 figure 1) and York: The Minster Seen from the River, with St Mary’s Abbey (see TG1049 figure 1), also appear to have been inspired by Girtin’s choice of viewpoint, and I can see no reason why this was not the case with this view of the minster – it is just that Girtin’s pencil drawing has either not been identified or not survived.
The text used when this site went online in 2022 was drafted from a poor quality black and white image and consequently I was uncertain about the attribution of the work. The opportunity to examine the watercolour has led to a significant reappraisal, however. Problems I had with the lack of integration of the foreground and the distance, as well as with the perspective of the Minster itself, can be accounted for by the uneven degree of fading across the sheet which sees the buildings and the vegetation in the lower part of the work retaining a stronger presence than the Minster and the area of sky beyond. Understanding this, I am now convinced that this large and imposing watercolour is an important outcome of the 1796 tour. Indeed, it may be that it was this watercolour and not the very slightly larger version (TG1047) that appeared at the Royal Academy in 1797 as 'View of York’ (one of no.486, no.489, no.499 or no.726). The evidence for this is admittedly inconclusive, but not without some significance. Joseph Farington (1747–1821) noted in his diary that the ‘Academy I went to & looked over pictures – Girtin’s drawings 18 Inches 4 guineas’ (Farington, Diary, 4 June 1797). This drawing does indeed measure roughly 18 in high (45.7 cm) and whilst this is not proof, at the very least it indicates the price that Girtin was able to command for an exhibition watercolour at this date. The price quoted by Farington, presumably garnered from the artist himself, is unlikely to have included the cost of the frame and its glazing, however. This would have had to accommodate the washline mount that Girtin habitually added to his exhibition pieces, part of which still surrounds this drawing. Given that smaller sketch-like works such as Kelso Abbey, from the River Tweed (TG1705) have also retained similar mounts, this is unfortunately not proof that this York view was shown in public. Conversely, the lack of a signature is not a sign that the work was created for private consumption either. Thus, though we might expect a signature to be a crucial element of a work shown in a public exhibition, Girtin only rarely signed his Academy exhibits and so the fact that this work is only inscribed on the back of the mount, albeit with a very ornate 'York Cathed Girtin’, is again of little help in establishing its exhibition status (see figure 1).
None of Girtin’s 1797 exhibits are marked as being for sale in the exhibition catalogue, and from this one might assume that they had been lent by their first owners, patrons who had commissioned works from the artist himself. However, it is likely that Girtin followed the common practice at this time by which artists rarely signalled that they were using the exhibition as a marketplace, preferring to suggest, no doubt erroneously at times, that they had had success in finding patrons for their work (Smith, 2001, p.197). That said, there is no doubt that one of the two versions of this composition was commissioned by Thomas Monro and that it was the ‘drawing by Girtin of York Minster’ that John Linnell (1792–1882) attempted to buy from him in 1820 to sell on. Unfortunately, it is again impossible to say with any degree of certainty if it was this work or TG1047 that was amongst the two hundred ‘drawings framed & glazed’ recorded as being on the walls of Monro’s Adelphi house in 1797 (Farington, Diary, 14 April 1797).1 Neither does the the copy of the composition by John Henderson (1764–1843) help resolve the issue (see TG1047 figure 3) for although we might have expected Monro to have lent his watercolour to his neighbour it appears to be closer to the slightly larger version that is known today only from a black and white image (TG1047) and it may be that he owned a different Girtin original himself or perhaps borrowed it from another source. It is very frustrating, therefore, that the copy made by Alexander Monro (1802–44) has not been traced as he purchased the Girtin drawing at his father’s posthumous sale and his copy would surely have been made from that version. In the end, therefore, it is not possible to be certain about either the early provenance of this work or its status as an exhibition piece, but for the record, although I have given the same early exhibition and ownership details for both watercolours, I marginally favour Monro as the first owner of TG1047 and this work (TG1048) as the drawing exhibited at the Academy in 1797.
1796 - 1797
York Minster, from the South West
TG1047
1796 - 1797
York Minster, from the South West
TG1047
1797 - 1798
York Minster, from the Ouse, with St Mary’s Abbey
TG1049
1796 - 1797
York Minster, from the South West
TG1047
(?) 1800
Kelso Abbey, from the River Tweed
TG1705
1796 - 1797
York Minster, from the South West
TG1047
1796 - 1797
York Minster, from the South West
TG1047
1796 - 1797
York Minster, from the South West
TG1047
1796 - 1797
York Minster, from the South West
TG1047