- Description
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- Creator(s)
- Thomas Girtin (1775-1802) and Joseph Mallord William Turner (1775-1851) after Unknown Artist
- Title
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- Windsor Castle and Park with Deer
- Date
- 1794 - 1797
- Medium and Support
- Graphite and watercolour on wove paper
- Dimensions
- 20.5 × 28.7 cm, 8 ⅛ × 11 ¼ in
- Object Type
- Collaborations; Monro School Copy
- Subject Terms
- Trees and Woods; Windsor and Environs
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- Collection
- Catalogue Number
- TG0163
- Description Source(s)
- Viewed in May 2025
Provenance
P & D Colnaghi & Co., 1942; bought from them by Leonard Gordon Duke (1890–1971), £8; P & D Colnaghi & Co., 1961; bought from them by Paul Mellon (1907–99), £100; presented to the Center, 1986
Exhibition History
London, 1953b, no.130; New Haven, 2025
Other entries in Monro School Copies:
British Views, Including Works after the Outlines of John Henderson
An Upland Landscape with a Rainbow, Said to Be Lowther Fells
Kendal Town Hall
Windsor Castle and Park with Deer
Yale Center for British Art, New Haven
Tonbridge Bridge and Castle
Yale Center for British Art, New Haven
The High Rocks, near Tunbridge Wells
National Gallery of Scotland, Edinburgh
The Town of Rye, Seen from the Marshes
Yale Center for British Art, New Haven
Dover Castle, Seen from the Beach
Yale Center for British Art, New Haven
An Upland Scene with a Wooded Valley
Leeds University Art Gallery
Unidentified Medieval Ruins, with Agricultural Buildings
Tate, London
A View near Keswick, Probably Bassenthwaite Lake
Private Collection
Skiddaw and Bassenthwaite Lake, from the Vale of Newlands
Private Collection
Looking South into Borrowdale, from the Shore of Derwentwater
Private Collection
Mountainous Landscape, Possibly in the Lake District
Walker Art Gallery, National Museums Liverpool
Boon Crag Cottage, with Coniston Water Beyond
Private Collection
A View in Cumbria, Probably Looking from Irton Fell towards Ravenglass
Clark Art Institute, Williamstown
A View in Cumbria, Looking towards Irton and the Irish Sea, with the Isle of Man in the Distance
Tate, London
The River Leven, Cumbria, Viewed from Penny Bridge
Tate, London
St John's Vale, Cumbria
Private Collection
The Lodore Falls
Yale Center for British Art, New Haven
Langdale Pikes
Private Collection
An Unidentified Bridge over a Stream, Possibly in North Wales
Private Collection
Derwentwater, with Skiddaw in the Distance
Eton College, Windsor
Beddgelert Bridge, North Wales
Private Collection
Nant Mill, Betws Garmon, North Wales
Clark Art Institute, Williamstown
A Mountainous River Landscape with a Bridge
Private Collection
Cynwyd Mill, near Corwen, North Wales
Brandler Galleries, Brentwood
Conwy: The Town Walls from the South East
Tate, London
Raglan Castle: The Great Hall
Private Collection
A Mountainous Landscape with an Unidentified Bridge, Possibly in North Wales
Ashmolean Museum, University of Oxford
The Iron Bridge at Coalbrookdale
Private Collection
An Estuary, Possibly Dartmouth
Private Collection
Grasmere: Looking North West to Helm Crag
Private Collection
The Head of Lake Windermere
Rhode Island School of Design Museum, Providence
The Head of Derwentwater, with the Lodore Falls
Private Collection
Dover Harbour, with Shipping Being Overhauled
Tate, London
A Two-Master in Dover Harbour, with the Castle Beyond
Tate, London
Dover Harbour: A Ship Being Overhauled
Tate, London
A Boat on the Shore, near Shakespeare Cliff, Dover
Tate, London
Dover Harbour: Fishing Vessels, Their Sails Drying
Tate, London
Shipping in Dover Harbour, with the Castle Beyond
Tate, London
Ullswater: Looking South to the Head of the Lake
Private Collection
A General View of Dover Harbour, from the East
Tate, London
Dover Harbour: Small Boats by the Quay
Tate, London
Boats in Dover Harbour
British Museum, London
An Unidentified Waterfall
Yale Center for British Art, New Haven
A Ship under Repair in Dover Harbour
National Gallery of Ireland, Dublin
Figures on a Fishing Vessel in Dover Harbour
Private Collection
A Fishing Vessel with Hastings Beyond
Birmingham Museums & Art Gallery
Dover Castle from the Sea
Private Collection
A Beached Vessel in the Inner Harbour at Dover
Private Collection
Dover Harbour, with the Castle on the Hill
British Museum, London
Dover Harbour
Private Collection
Beached Vessels in Dover Harbour, the Castle in the Distance
Smith College Museum of Art, Northampton
Vessels Anchored in Dover Harbour, with the Castle Beyond
National Gallery of Scotland, Edinburgh
Warehouses with Shipping in Dover Harbour
Smith College Museum of Art, Northampton
Vessels in the Harbour at Dover, with the Castle Beyond
Private Collection
Dover Harbour, with the Cliffs Beyond
Tasmanian Museum and Art Gallery, Hobart
Vessels Moored in Dover Harbour
Private Collection
The Inner Harbour, Dover, with the Castle Beyond
Brighton Museum and Art Gallery
A Ship Drawn Up on a Beach Being Careened
Private Collection
Beached Fishing Vessels, Dover Harbour
National Gallery of Ireland, Dublin
Beached Fishing Vessels in the Harbour at Dover
Private Collection
Boats Anchored in Dover Harbour
Victoria and Albert Museum, London
Boats Anchored in Dover Harbour
Private Collection
Dover Harbour, with Fishing Boats at Low Tide
The High Museum of Art, Atlanta
Dover: The Harbour with Vessels
Fitzwilliam Museum, University of Cambridge
A Smack in Dover Harbour, Drying Sails, with the Old Church in the Distance
National Maritime Museum, Greenwich
Dover Harbour: A Boat under Repair
Private Collection
Fishing Boats at Low Tide, near Dover
Courtauld Gallery, London
Dover: Two Boatmen Standing by the Prow of a Brig
Private Collection
Dover Harbour
Private Collection
A Fisherman's Cottage, Said to Be at Dover
Yale Center for British Art, New Haven
The Hull of a Ship under Repair, with a Barge and Smaller Boats
Tate, London
A Boat-Builder’s Yard, Possibly on the River Medway
Fitzwilliam Museum, University of Cambridge
A Boat-Builder’s Yard, Possibly on the Medway
Private Collection
A Boat-Builder’s Yard, Possibly on the River Medway
Private Collection
A Boat-Builder's Shed, Possibly on the River Medway
National Gallery of Scotland, Edinburgh
A Boat-Builder’s Shed, Possibly on the River Medway, with a Fishing Boat with Drying Sails
Tate, London
The Coast, near Dover
The Higgins, Bedford
Folkestone Harbour
Julian Huxley-Parlour Fine Art, London
Beachy Head, Looking towards Newhaven
National Gallery of Scotland, Edinburgh
Beachy Head, Looking towards Newhaven
Ulster Museum, Belfast
Shakespeare Cliff, Dover
National Gallery of Ireland, Dublin
Beached Vessels in Dover Harbour, the Castle in the Distance
Ashmolean Museum, University of Oxford
Buildings on a Wooden Quayside
Private Collection
A Coast View with Chalk Cliffs, Probably from near Beachy Head
Ashmolean Museum, University of Oxford
A Small Boat under Repair by a Jetty
Private Collection
Dover: Snargate Street, Looking West
Private Collection
Dartford High Street
Private Collection
Tonbridge Bridge and Castle
Fitzwilliam Museum, University of Cambridge
Rye, from the River Tillingham
National Gallery of Scotland, Edinburgh
Dover: Fishing Boats at Low Tide
Private Collection
Two Boatmen Caulking the Bows of a Beached Brig, Probably at Dover
Private Collection
Hastings: A Beached Fishing Boat
Private Collection
A Coastal Scene at Dover
Worthing Museum and Art Gallery
Mickleham Church
Tate, London
An Overshot Mill
Museum of Fine Arts, Boston
Dolbadarn Castle on Llyn Padarn
Clark Art Institute, Williamstown
Conwy Castle, from the East
Huddersfield Art Gallery
Harlech Castle, from the South
National Gallery of Ireland, Dublin
The Gatehouse, Harlech Castle, Seen from the Moat
Private Collection, Gloucestershire
The High Street at Egham
Private Collection
A Packhorse Bridge
Rhode Island School of Design Museum, Providence
Boats in Dover Harbour
Leeds Art Gallery
A Dismasted Boat in Dover Harbour
Harvard Art Museums / Fogg Museum
Two Trees Overlooking a Meandering River
Private Collection
A Dilapidated Cottage
Private Collection
Dover: Boats Anchored in the Harbour
Private Collection
A Coastal View near Dover, probably at St Margaret's, Cliffe
Private Collection
Dover: Beached Boats, with the Castle Beyond
Private Collection
Dover Harbour: The Stern of a Large Ship, and Smaller Vessels
Tate, London
The Town of Rye, Seen from the Marshes
British Museum, London
Footnotes
- 1 Turner’s earliest pencil drawings of c.1792 are all architectural studies (Turner Bequest, VIII D-F).
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About this Work
The idea that this view of Windsor Castle seen from the south east was produced at the home of Dr Thomas Monro as a collaboration between Girtin and his contemporary Joseph Mallord William Turner (1775–1851) is not initially a compelling one. The several hundred collaborations between the two artists overwhelmingly depict foreign scenes that they could not have accessed during wartime, whilst the bulk of the British subjects show views in Wales and the Lake District which they were either never to visit or, as in Turner’s case, travelled to at a later date; both categories of subject were therefore worked at second hand after sketches by artists of older generations. That said, if there was one location outside of London that one might expect a young watercolourist to have visited as a matter of course it was Windsor, but evidence of either artist studying the castle in its landscape setting is surprisingly thin.1 The castle in a watercolour by Turner of c.1795, now in the Royal Collection (RCIN 452672), is by no means convincing, whilst a distant view of Windsor in an imaginary river landscape (Tate Britain, TB XXXIII - H) appears to have been adapted from another artist. And given that Turner made an impressive large-scale and carefully worked copy of a view of Windsor Castle from the south west by John Robert Cozens (1752–97) (see TG1467 figure 1), it is possible that the older artist was also the source for this slighter work with its ubiquitous herd of deer. Evidence regarding a visit by Girtin to Windsor is likewise ambiguous and, given that he too may have been the author of a copy of the same composition by Cozens (TG1467), I am not convinced that either of his two mature views of Windsor Castle seen from the south west (TG0907 and TG1369) were made from his own on-the-spot sketches. The fact is that distant views of Windsor Castle in its parkland setting were so common at this date that a trip out of London was not needed for the completion of a simple composition such as the work considered here. Evidence of a Monro connection is also strengthened by reference to the catalogue of the collector’s posthumous sale which lists Windsor views by both Girtin and Turner (Christie’s, 26 June 1833, lot 103 – Turner ‘Windsor Castle’and Christie's, 1 July 1833, lot 102 – Girtin, ‘Windsor Castle’). Both drawings were part of multiple lots with each item fetching just over £1, a figure which is in keeping with the value placed on the bulk of the monochrome Monro School works and too little for full scale and carefully worked up copies such as TG1467 and TG1467 figure 1.
The Monro sale catalogue nowhere acknowledges that any of the works were produced by the two artists in collaboration and it seems that thirty odd years after their production Girtin’s contribution to many hundreds of the works attributed to Turner had been forgotten. Intriguingly, the 1833 sale includes numerous drawings attributed to Girtin alone, including twenty-five or so foreign subjects that must have been copied from other artists, as well as two Italian scenes that are specified as being ‘after Cozens’ (Christie’s, 1 July 1833, lots 10 and 108). This is worth bearing in mind because although the pencil work on this sheet includes many touches that are characteristic of Girtin’s hand, particularly in the detailing of the architecture in the middle ground and the deer in the foreground, the watercolour washes are not so obviously the work of Turner. The free calligraphic touches found in the foreground feel closer to Girtin’s work and though this is not enough to conclude that the work was not a collaborative effort there must at least be a suspicion that it was one of the items listed in the catalogue as being by Girtin but which have not so far been identified, possibly even the ‘Windsor Castle’ listed on 1 July. I suspect that inscriptions on early mounts allowed the auction house to identify works as being by Girtin and that their loss over time has meant that the sole authorship of a significant number of his works has been obscured.
A slightly smaller and more partial view of the castle from the Great Park taken from a closer vantage point came from the same mid-twentieth century collection, that of Leonard Duke (1890–1971) (figure 1) and it too features deer in the foreground (Sotheby’s, 11 July 1996, lot 22). Sadly, the work is known only from a black and white image, and though the pencil work appears to be by Girtin and the washes differ in character to those found on the drawing at Yale, it is not possible to say with any degree of confidence that it merits a joint attribution to Girtin and Turner and if that, in turn, has implications for the authorship of the larger and less occluded view of the castle catalogued here.
1794 - 1795
Windsor Castle, Viewed from the South West
TG1467
1797 - 1798
Windsor Park and Castle, from Snow Hill
TG0907
1797 - 1798
Windsor Castle and the Great Park, from the South West
TG1369
1794 - 1795
Windsor Castle, Viewed from the South West
TG1467
1794 - 1795
Windsor Castle, Viewed from the South West
TG1467